Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet

I'm writing a book on Sir Henry Wyatt, his famous son and his infamous grandson. This is bits and pieces of cool stuff I'm finding along the way.

Feeds:
Posts
Comments
« The 1830 Travels of Richard Ware Wyatt
Sir Thomas Wyatt the Younger vs. Bloody Mary »

William the Conqueror (“the Bastard”) and Edward I (“the Confessor”)

August 19, 2010 by mickisuzanne

 
King Edward I of England, a.k.a. St. Edward the Confessor

King Edward I of England, a.k.a. St. Edward the Confessor

This is an informal update.
I just got back from the library. I have a shiny new library card and enough reading material to keep me out of trouble for a few days.

 

I am so hooked on working on this book. Every door I open opens three more. I was going to “head of the line” in Wyatt ancestry and damned if our first DOCUMENTED ancestor wasn’t Captain Guyot – who ran the fleet for William the Conqueror – who also was an ancestor through Sir Thomas Wyatt’s wife Elizabeth Brooke – whose pedigree goes further back than that.

Then I innocently lost focus due to overlap, wandered off into the world of what was and what if. Like our times, history is not black and white. Writers always had an agenda and you hope to find the truth somewhere in the middle. 

William the Conqueror was William the Bastard before he got to conquering. While researching him I discovered his father’s cousin (?) was then king of England – Edward I who would later be known as “Saint Edward the Confessor.”

What opposites.

Then I read some of Ed’s stuff. I don’t think he wanted that job, it sounds like he just wanted to go off and join a monastery.  Historians make him sound like the wimp king who gave up England to the Normans, while the Catholic church  pegs him as saint.

Did Ed have an arrangement with his wife that they would be celibate due to extreme piousness – or did he hate her because her family killed members of his family?? For most couples, that would be a dealbreaker.

And somewhere along the line Ed promised William he would succeed him to the throne if he (Ed) didn’t have heirs. ?? It didn’t sound like he had PLANS to have heirs. 

And I wondered why the saint was trying to help the bastard when I discovered that William spent his childhood dodging assassins. In one case, as a child, another boy he was sleeping with was stabbed in a case of mistaken identity. Poor kid – talk about post-traumatic stress syndrome.

I would have had a soft spot for him – or at least cut him some slack. Plus the young man was a relative on Ed’s mom’s side. Plus William grew up being called the bastard. (I kept thinking Johnny Cash’s “Boy Named Sue” – I grew up quick and I grew up mean, my fists got hard and my wits got keen ….”)

History has an account of him cutting off the hands and feet of some burghers who made the mistake of mocking. 

And poor Ed – he’s got various sides breathing down his neck and all he wants to do is realize his life’s dream – construction of Westminster Abbey.  Then he goes and has a stroke or hemorrhage in November of 1065. He misses consecration of his beloved edifice.   

Turns out by Christmas Ed was alternately delirious/comatose and was “said” to have given his throne to Harold of Somethingorever just before he died on January 4. 

King Harold was crowned (at Westminster no less) on January 6.

Who gives their throne to Harold? Bill and two other guys were furious and all hell broke loose. 

After requesting directions to books on William the Conqueror and St. Edward the Confessor, I asked the librarians where I could find books on Westminster Abbey; they looked at me like I must have been out in the parking area smoking weed. 

It is just amazing. It’s SO much fun, completely addictive.

I apologize for feeding this blog in bits and pieces, but that’s just how it’s going at this point. My next few posts will be about Bill and Ed.

Share this:

  • Twitter
  • Email
  • Pinterest

Like this:

Like Loading...

Related

Posted in William the Bastard/Conqueror | Tagged Captain Adam Guyot, Edward I, King of Enland, Lady Elizabeth Brooke, St. Edward the Confessor, William the Bastard, William the Conqueror | 6 Comments

6 Responses

  1. on April 13, 2011 at 10:08 pm Steven Kendall Wyatt

    Very interesting information.


  2. on September 6, 2011 at 10:45 pm joanvera

    I am currently in process of writing a book centered on William the Conqueror, and I understand your sentiment entirely. Researching this era, and these individuals is so addicting! I like your “A boy named Sue’ reference, ha! And he also must have been so charismatic. To wield so much power and maintain control over his newly conquered lands, I believe he was more than a “bloody warrior”, he must have had that ‘something’ that drew people to him.

    I read that when landing on England’s soil, he tripped, which would have set his men in terror of a bad omen – but he turned it around quickly to his own end and said: “”Thus I seize this land; from this moment it is mine.” Clever! Next time I trip I’ll try that. I’m not sure I could pull that off quite so smooth!


    • on September 6, 2011 at 11:35 pm mickisuzanne

      Excellent choice. It would be very easy to spend months/years focused on those people in that period in time. The repercussions of their choices and actions echo through the centuries!!


  3. on September 6, 2011 at 10:52 pm joanvera

    BTW I was also fascinated by the drama of Harold’s father Godwin – he and “Ed” had such a huge falling out. Interesting that he would then pass the throne along to Harold. Harold might have been a good candidate, but no royal blood! I just have a hard time believing that Edward would have done so… not that I am by any means an expert, and clearly, no one can ever really know – but it just doesn’t sound right to me. I smell a rat…


  4. on May 19, 2012 at 6:26 am Pamela

    He was known as ‘the Bastard’ because his parents were not married. It had nothing to do with his character. It was not even particularly an insult at the time. Just a way of identifying.


    • on May 19, 2012 at 10:07 am mickisuzanne

      Pamela – The word has had a bad connotation through the centuries. Of course it meant his parents weren’t married, and (until now) that has always carried stigma. I also am a bastard, so be assured I know exactly what I’m talking about. The word was first used behind my back in high school and I was absolutely crushed. William simply got even. And for the record, he truly did become a bastard in the sense of character. But if you’re a descendant like me, he is OUR bastard and we will proudly take the good with the bad. Micki



Comments are closed.

  • Recent Posts

    • Meet Living Wyatts on Facebook
    • A Wyatt Family Album by Hans Holbein the Younger
    • Urgent! John Thomas Wyatt Family Bible For Sale on eBay
    • On the Bones of Saints
    • Sir Thomas Wyatt: His Last Three Years
    • The Wiatt Family of Virginia by Alexander Lloyd Wiatt
    • Three Great Videos on The Vikings
    • THE WHITE QUEEN: Wyatt connections to the power players of the Cousins’ Wars
    • Execution – The Final Act
    • Bible of Interest to Indiana, Pennsylvania & Ohio Wyatts
  • Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email.

    Join 1,243 other subscribers
  • Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet

    Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet

Blog at WordPress.com.

WPThemes.


Privacy & Cookies: This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this website, you agree to their use.
To find out more, including how to control cookies, see here: Cookie Policy
  • Follow Following
    • Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet
    • Join 163 other followers
    • Already have a WordPress.com account? Log in now.
    • Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet
    • Customize
    • Follow Following
    • Sign up
    • Log in
    • Copy shortlink
    • Report this content
    • View post in Reader
    • Manage subscriptions
    • Collapse this bar
 

Loading Comments...
 

    %d bloggers like this: